Curse

BiggDunc · May 12, 2005, 05:30 PM // 17:30

i actually did this as an accident one day
my in game name is Lord Dunc X, if you bought it from me, find me, ill return your money

i got it, by ending my first character, adn spending all his money, throwin the remover in storage, then it looked like red dye

so i sold it

if this was you, i am sorry
and thankfully they changed the icon for dye remover now

sorry

sulos · May 12, 2005, 05:30 PM // 17:30

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Originally Posted by Navaros

1. i was not going to be out 200 gold due to a scam. if NCSoft was not going to give me my gold back, then i was going to have to get it back myself by any legal means necessary

2. by scamming someone else, more people will become aware that the ashes scamming is a big huge issue

um... didn't someone in this thread say something about mental comprehension rating??? I MOVE THAT THAT BE ADDED AFTER READING THAT POST!!! you are crying about 200 gold???? if you don't make that 200 gold back within 10-25 min then you are still in town!!! that post makes no sense, maybe ncsoft needs to get a picture id from people who buy the game so they can inforce the age thing.

butcherboy · May 12, 2005, 06:36 PM // 18:36

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Originally Posted by Master Elyas

omg... dont scam ppl... its just not cool

and, besides... ppl will see that same "dye" at the merchant, and be like, ooo! ima get that! and then, they see that its the dye remover, and you are totally screwed...

'nuff said

I am quite sarcastic when it comes to scamming newbies. I rarely trade with people unless I have a gazillion of what they want (usually collectables). If asked for anything I have a gazillion of and the other person tells me 0gp, I'll sell it to them for 0gp. I find resources are nearly unlimited in the game.

I don't think anyone asking for help should be turned down unless it is a lvl3 guy in post searing looking for someone to do a north of the wall quest (can you say Crall bait?). Information is free, common materials are free, and so are common weapons.

Personally, scammers should be penalized slightly for scamming (2 hrs of probation or something. However, I do agree that in reality there are scammers, shammers, and unsavory types and this *IS* and RPG. Of course, in reality you could filet them, too

. Perhaps GW needs a "duel" challenge button (mutually accepted) to resolve such instances - winner picks one item from the looser's inventory as payment. It would be nice to normal scrap someone's prized weapon and return the common raw materials back to them....

Cs Coldize · May 12, 2005, 06:58 PM // 18:58

Selling Althea's Ashes. In Piken Square every once in a while you'll see someone trying to sell Althea's Ashes. See, when you complete the quest as a group, you dont lose the Barradin Family Urn so people pretend the ashes are still in there and they try to sell it. This isn't only in Piken Square, so watch out.

thegriffgeeks · May 12, 2005, 07:01 PM // 19:01

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Originally Posted by butcherboy

Personally, scammers should be penalized slightly for scamming (2 hrs of probation or something. However, I do agree that in reality there are scammers, shammers, and unsavory types and this *IS* and RPG. Of course, in reality you could filet them, too

. Perhaps GW needs a "duel" challenge button (mutually accepted) to resolve such instances - winner picks one item from the looser's inventory as payment. It would be nice to normal scrap someone's prized weapon and return the common raw materials back to them....

Sweet! I agree when can this start!!

Mountain Man · May 12, 2005, 07:04 PM // 19:04

I don't particularly like the "might makes right" philosophy that such a challenge system would promote.

thegriffgeeks · May 12, 2005, 08:40 PM // 20:40

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Originally Posted by Mountain Man

I don't particularly like the "might makes right" philosophy that such a challenge system would promote.

So what would you suggest? Most people learn that something is wrong by punishment. Maybe a report-a-scammer system. Their pictures will be posted on the dye bottles saying "have you seen this scammer today?"

Flatliner · May 12, 2005, 09:04 PM // 21:04

Reminds me of a scam I was hit with..

I paid someone for 3 cloth, 1 iron ingot. When I got the items I found out He gave me 3 hides and something else. I would have complained to the scammer but I didn't want to deal with him again.

Norbix · May 12, 2005, 10:18 PM // 22:18

The dye remover icon is changed now to a light blue liquid.

SOT · May 12, 2005, 10:54 PM // 22:54

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Originally Posted by Cs Coldize

Selling Althea's Ashes. In Piken Square every once in a while you'll see someone trying to sell Althea's Ashes. See, when you complete the quest as a group, you dont lose the Barradin Family Urn so people pretend the ashes are still in there and they try to sell it. This isn't only in Piken Square, so watch out.

The scamming of Althea's Ashes has become something of a pestilence in Post Searing. I have been verbally, in the trade channel (no what you think of me doing it in trade channels matters not) debunking people on the spot when I see it.

Example:

"Selling ALTHEA'S ASHES FOR QUEST COMPLETION WITHOUT THE WORK! 1 plat!"

My response: "[player name] is scamming, you cannot get xp or item rewards for bought quest items. Do not fall for this trick"

Almost without fail, the offender in each case responds:

[player name] "oh my bad, I thought it was possible. SORRY ALL PEACE"

...Which leads me to believe this is an organized effort from the People's Red Army region of the globe. Nuff said...

Kialya · May 12, 2005, 10:54 PM // 22:54

Third Degree Burns sold me what I thought to be a sigil and instead did the bait and switch after cancelling and reopening the trade window a few times - I ended up with a really expensive Rune of Minor vigor (identical graphic).

For those of you who are going to reply to this thread "you stupid - you fell for that scam blah blah .. save it. I already know how stupid I was etc, etc." I am ONLY posting this (and sharing my humiliation with everyone) ONLY with the hopes of preventing someone else falling for this same scam and to let Third Degree Burns know he can rot in hell and I hope the petition I sent to GW with all the screen shots will get him banned.

Just don't be stupid like I was and fall for this crap.

Thank you for your time.

Odai · May 13, 2005, 02:13 PM // 14:13

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger on this.

I did it to.

Master Elyas · May 13, 2005, 03:52 PM // 15:52

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Originally Posted by Flatliner

Reminds me of a scam I was hit with..

I paid someone for 3 cloth, 1 iron ingot. When I got the items I found out He gave me 3 hides and something else. I would have complained to the scammer but I didn't want to deal with him again.

dear god... I would say that this is your fault. Cloth and hides look totally different... and, you cant really mistake an iron ingot... anyway, if you are new to GW, then i guess that this is ok... but, you should of looked at the names of the items anyway. If you need any materials in the future, message Lord Of The Dawn, and I will be happy to help.

WeiPing · May 13, 2005, 05:34 PM // 17:34

I'm amazed that scamming would exist in a game where money is essentially meaningless and really, really easy to accumulate.

I know people trade their morals for things of value...but trading it for things without value? *sigh*

sybban · May 13, 2005, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Meaningless? Ya I guess if load all your stuff then money is meaningless. Good luck with that. Anyway, is this the scam post thread or the trade post. Not sure why this was stickied if people get extremely off topic. But anyway as far as scams go, don't cry about it. Chalk it up to experience. Rip someone else off and make your money back. They'll do the same thing to someone else. Then after you do it let people know. I can't beleive people are still buying althea's ashes. That's hilarious. People who say scamming ruins a game, are the ones who ruin the game. If you can't take a joke then go cry yourself to sleep in your pillow about it. No one cares. Call me what you wil, but things would go a lot smoother if everyone let the petty bullsnuff slide. Just my opinion.

Dr Muffin · May 13, 2005, 07:53 PM // 19:53

Couldnt have said it better myself if i tried my hardest. The only way people will learn is through first hand experience.

WeiPing · May 13, 2005, 08:02 PM // 20:02

The only way people will learn...what, exactly? That the GW community is selfish greedy jackoffs?

A valid point. The best way to teach someone that important lesson is to be a selfish greedy jackoff.

CtrlAltDel · May 13, 2005, 08:07 PM // 20:07

yeah dunno about a scam, unless its been fixed recently as the bottles appear differently to me

biggest scam i saw, was people paying people to escort them to places in the world, aka travel guide...

Lasher Dragon · May 13, 2005, 08:21 PM // 20:21

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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDel

yeah dunno about a scam, unless its been fixed recently as the bottles appear differently to me

biggest scam i saw, was people paying people to escort them to places in the world, aka travel guide...

How is that a scam? If they advertise that for X amount of gold they will escort you to far-off Leetville, and they do it, seems like a legitimate service to me.

wizorack · May 13, 2005, 08:32 PM // 20:32

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Originally Posted by thegriffgeeks

So what would you suggest? Most people learn that something is wrong by punishment. Maybe a report-a-scammer system. Their pictures will be posted on the dye bottles saying "have you seen this scammer today?"

That is the best Idea..